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1. I saw on another web-site that all that is required to shoot
"45 Super"® ammunition in my Govt. mod. 1911 is to install an $8.00,
28 lb. recoil spring from W.C. Wolff Co. Is this correct?
For an individual to suggest or make such a proclamation is both irresponsible
and to the innocent and uninformed, potentially dangerous! And Absurd!
It is doubtful that the individual who made this statement: 1 - has
ever had an F.F.L. license, 2 - has ever owned a business in the Firearms
industry, 3 - has ever fired a firearm properly converted to shoot "45
Super®" ammunition, 4 - has never personally seen a box of factory loaded
"45 Super®" ammunition, 5 - and certainly has not ever been a "Gunsmith"
and probably does not even know one! And most assuredly has never had
any direct contact with Ace Custom 45s Inc.
An individual such as this is rather, someone who views himself as
an expert but claims not to be, (but who certainly wants you to believe
he is!) and who likes to try and elevate his status based on his opinions
of someone else's work or ideas (they don't have the ability to develop
anything on their own!) and then hide behind a shield of objectivity
such as; I am no expert and of course I would not recommend this to
someone else, these are just my fact findings (of course they have no
direct experience with what they claim to be knowledgeable or factual
about). The world is full of these types, and the Internet is a safe
haven for them! Beware!
Since 1988, we have at Ace Custom 45s Inc., fired down range an estimated
80,000 + rounds of "45 Super"® ammunition , in hand loaded and commercially
loaded form, in various model 1911 pistols, S&W pistols, Glock-21 pistols,
and many others, and continue to shoot several hundred rounds a week
of "45 Super"® in our field test on customer supplied weapons and custom
units we build! We know what is required to safely shoot and set up
a pistol to reliably function with "45 Super"® ammunition! We do not
experiment on customer weapons! We offer a system that is time proven!
However for the those who wish to subscribe to the $8.00 proclamation,
Good luck !
2. What is the difference between the "45 Super"® cartridge & the
new .460 Roland cartridge? - What does the .460 designate?
The "45 Super"® case is based on a standard .45 acp case length
(.898) with a beefed up web area and special annealing process for added
strength to handle the higher pressures generated by the "45 Super"®
The .460 Roland cartridge while touted as new, is basically a resurrection
of the original .451 Detonics Magnum . The .460 Roland has a case based
on the .45acp, with a case length of approximately .957 with a stronger
web area. The original .451 Detonics was also based on a.45acp with
a case length of approximately.947 with a beefed up web area! While
there are other minor differences, extractor grove angle (the Detonics
had a short angle, the. 460 Roland has a normal .45acp extractor groove
angle) essentially the cartridges are the same except for the .010 difference
in case length!
The longer case lengths of the .451 Detonics & .460 Roland cases of
course allow for a larger powder charge and consequently higher velocities
, with of course higher pressures.
The current pressures on our "45 Super"® ammunition range from approximately
26,000 to 29,000. The published pressure figures on the .460 Roland
indicate approximately 38,000 to 39,000, or about 10,000 above our top
"45 Super"® loads. This is why it is "absolutely necessary" to utilize
a gas expansion compensator system with the .460 Roland concept! It
has never been difficult to achieve higher pressures / velocities it
is the resultant mechanical / dynamic consequences that are difficult!
The ".45 Super"® concept allows the original ergonomics of the pistols
we convert to remain intact for carry purposes as well as the versatility
of recreationally shooting std. .45 acp ammunition and simply loading
".45 Super"® ammunition in the magazine when one wants! It was never
our intention to wring the last ft.lbs or fps. from the "45 Super"®
concept but rather to provide a significant increase in power in the
.45 acp platform,. with reliability and function to match.
Regarding the .460 designation, I don't know? The cartridge utilizes
std. ..451 diameter .45acp bullets. Would suggest you contact the folks
who offer the system for clarification.
One final note, I understand it has been suggested that std. Factory
.45 acp ammunition can be fired in the .460 Roland , this would result
in .050+ excess head space, and there is certainly no logic in this
! One would not even consider this with a std,. .45 acp barrel with
this much excess headspace! In fact the barrel would be discarded! So
why would it be considered otherwise? The choice of course is the consumers'.
Ace Custom 45s Inc. wants to make it unequivocally clear "do not" under
any circumstances consider firing any "45 Super"® ammunition in "any"
barrel that exceeds std.. 45acp chamber dimensions, period!
3. I see that you have posted a notice on your web-site that
Ace Custom 45 Inc. has terminated the Trademark license Agreement with
Triton Cartridge, to load “45 Super”® ammunition. What happened?
Triton Cartridge Company was in default status with the Trademark license
agreement with Ace Custom 45 Inc., and consequently the Trademark License
Agreement was terminated! This is now a legal matter and will be settled
accordingly. We continue to wish Triton Cartridge the best in their
future endeavors.
Texas Ammunition Co. recently doubled their production capacity and
can handle all future “45 Super”® ammunition sales needs; for distributors,
dealers and retail customers. There is now and always will be “45 Super”®
ammunition available!
Indeed Texas Ammunition Co. just released the new “45Super”® EXPRESS
loads and is currently developing more “45 Super”® loadings for
the future. For information on any “45 Super”® ammunition contact
Texas Ammunition @ .
4. Reloading information is available from the following
sources:
"45Super"® reloading information is
available from the following sources:
(1) "American Handgunner" Combat 1977 Annual - (Charles Petty)
(2) "Combat Handguns" December 1997 - (D.K. Pridgen)
(3) "Shooting Times" November 1997 - (Layne Simpson)
5. Do I have to change springs (recoil) on a "45Super"®
pistol to shoot standard factory ammunition?
No, as long as the factory ammunition is ballistically equivalent to
230 grain factory ball ammo, or above!
6. Can "45Super"® conversions
be done on officer model or variants thereof? We do not offer
conversions on these units.
7. What is the smallest Colt 1911 pistol applicable for "45Super"®
conversions? The Colt Commander or any equivalent thereof
can be converted to "45Super"®. But
these units must be limited to our "45Super"®
tactical loads.
8. Can I shoot "45Super"®
ammunition in my Smith & Wesson Model - 625? Any of the "45Super"®
tactical ammunition can be shot in the S&W M - 625.
Regarding our full power "45Super"®
ammunition, we have received conflicting answers from Smith & Wesson
and suggest you contact Smith & Wesson Directly!
9. Can I shoot "45Super"®
ammunition in my Ruger - P90?
Any of the "45Super"® tactical
ammunition can be shot in a Ruger P-90. Regarding our full power "45Super"®
ammunition we suggest you contact Ruger directly!
10. Can I shoot "45Super"®
ammunition in my Glock-21?
Yes, we now offer a "45Super"®
Conversion for Glock model 21 pistols (only) as well as complete Glock
Model 21 pistols in "45Super"®
configuration and a drop in component parts conversion kit. Check
Complete Pistols, or 45
Super® Gunsmith Fit Conversion Kits.
11. Can I shoot "45Super"®
ammunition in my H&K USP?
Any of the "45Super"® tactical
ammunition can be shot in a H&K U.S.P. Regarding our full power
"45Super"® ammunition we suggest
you contact H&K directly!
12. Can I shoot "45Super"®
ammunition in my EAA Witness Pistol 45 ACP or have it converted to do
so?
The answer to both questions is no!
13. Do you still have any .451 Detonics magnum brass?
Yes! and its not for sale! Seriously, "45Super"®
brass is available from Starline Brass @ . You are much
better off with the "45Super"® brass
as it is actually stronger, the "45Super"®
cases are annealed, and they have the normal 45 ACP extractor
groove and angle.
14. I have a .451 Detonics magnum pistol. Can I shoot "45Super"®
ammunition in a .451 Detonics barrel?
Do not under any circumstances fire "45Super"® ammunition in any
barrel that exceeds standard 45acp barrel chamber dimensions. The "45Super"®
case is the same overall length (.898.) as the standard 45acp case.
The .451 Detonics case is(.945.), about(.050.) longer than the "45Super"®
or standard 45acp case. Remember the 45acp case was designed to headspace
on the casemouth! This includes the "45Super"®! Firing "45Super"®
ammunition in a .451 Detonics barrel would result in about (.050) excess
headspace! and this with 28,500 psi.ammunition could be disasterous!
Do not do it REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU MAY HAVE READ OR BEEN TOLD !
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